MissChief..
IMHO ...The Gulf Air standard throttle handling and other operational points you raise are inherited from when BA trained GF pilots on the VC10 and the Tristars in 1974/6
Also interesting in the light of GF072 crash.
On non and precision approaches the BA monitored approach system was (where the Fo flew the approach and the Captain monitored) also taught to GF by these same BA trainers, but in Gulf Airs wisdom the monitored approach system had been THROWN OUT and the 072 Captain was now trained and required to fly approaches in IMC.
The BA monitored approach inmho goes a long way to minimising this Somatogrovic illusion problem and thanks to Belgique for the web refs.
The Tsb report,para 1-18-2 says a lot and combined with the above gets you an accident.
In defence of Gulf Air they were interested (in their own way)in CRM prior to 072 and a memo asking for any pilot interested to teach crm on his 6days off a month and possibly to other airlines got few replies.
In my experiance gulf national pilots do not feel inferior and are not inferior to expat pilots, we all strove together to be safe operators.
National trainers constantly demonstrate their superior knowledge on checks, and a wise expat accommodates.
An exercise in stress management that teaches all concerned patience and pays the mortgage.
National trainers were I am sure as schocked as we all were at the 072 flight path,and that it was allowed to happen by a national crew which they had checked and trained.
However nobody should forget the 767 at Narobi with 200 plus soles on board.
This was nearly a crash and another case of flight path and speed deviations being recorded and this time by a totally expat two man crew.
These aircraft donot discriminate and are not politically correct.
Change a system or change a management or ignore a manufacturers recomendation it does not always result in improvements.
[This message has been edited by scanscanscan (edited 26 May 2001).]
[This message has been edited by scanscanscan (edited 26 May 2001).]
[This message has been edited by scanscanscan (edited 26 May 2001).]