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Old 18th Jul 2008, 04:22
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GaryGnu
 
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Icao Tiba

Ozmasheer,

I had the same concerns re availability of TIBA broadcast info in International documents.

TIBA is an approved ICAO procedure (ICAO Annex 11 Attachment C). It is also reproduced in the Jepp World Wide Text document that I had a look at yesterday (ATC page 475 for those interested if my document was not a company tailored one). It is not only in the AU pages as far as I am aware.

Whether all overseas pilots operating in Australian airspace have access to the information I do not know. Perhaps given recent publicity the various operators will take steps to ensure they do.

I do agree that the TIBA procedures are insufficient for ensuring separation in airspace without ATS being provided. 5nm sep IMHO is waaay too close in TIBA airspace and to claim it is the standard, as a spokesman did, is decpetive.

The bottom line is that it should not be happening in Australia and the fact that it is is a great indictment on the long term management of Airservices and CASA.
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