Hughesy I have yet to meet any student loan guys that I would hire as a pilot. Don't get me wrong on this subject, it is the scheme that is turning out the wrong type of guy not the other way around. I really want these guys to stop filling the trainees with bull about what it's like out there. There are too many dickheads out there (you just have to go on a frost night to see that) Whether its daddys money or my tax money it all comes too easily probably. Just my thoughts.