My dear Icarus (boy we're getting mythical here!),
My point was that a steep turn is a training manouevre which is done for training scanning and flying skills. I see no reason anywhere to fly steep turns in any normal flight outside training or examination flights.
During my flight training, I always had to make 2 90 degree lookout turns before entering a steep turn, because of other traffic.
And no, not all IFR turns are rate one. The 320 flies most of it's turns with 25 degree bank, and intercepts the ILS with turns up to 30 degrees. No word there about rate one turns.
But again, collision avoidance has never been a factor in practicing steep turns. Flying a steep bank angle is pretty easy! So that has never been the reason they were practised. The difficult part begins first when you want to maintain altitude <img src="wink.gif" border="0">
[ 19 February 2002: Message edited by: Pegasus77 ]</p>