It seems that what DirectX states wins the arguement. PIB you really need to look around you and rid youraelf of our BA smugness, futhermore not only have we lost % pax we are also losing revenue on those that are flying with us. If you are LGW crew then the state of their shorthaul a/c are crap and the 77 are little better. Not that we can boast about the LHR stuff other than being newer therefore less worn.