Dutchroll, could be a little truth in it, but I am basing it on a interesting discussion with the man himself, at a old boys Waverley College reunion, my old school. The bloke was somewhat bemused at the running of QF but openly declared himself a learner, but did mention morale, which he finds important in the sucessful running of any unit be it comercial or military, I would still give him a go. He did impress me, he is nobodys fool, but he likes people, and believes in getting the best out of them, and he was VERY interested in what I had to say. The bloke has no tickets on himself, and enjoys a beer and a laugh, he had a good record at the college, popular, and good at sport, a good allrounder, what you see is what you get. Its either him or another bean counter, which seem to do the rounds of every board room in the country, JC we could end up with Ziggy!