I see the recent 'problem' caused more by Bush and Blair, and besides, sns3guppy correctly states that it's not the body count that matters it's the continous threat that the terrorism causes. I grew up watching the news each evening waiting to see another poor family member of a para that had his head blown off while patrolling a street in Northern Ireland. I used to fly with an ex RUC officer, his stories of escaping an IRA death squad were frightning. 40years of that pointless bloodshed, America has had Pearl harbour and 9/11.