WITWIW I don't think heavy lets the truth get in the way of a good story.Anyway no fear as he is no real threat as anyone with an ounze of business nounce wouldn't be so upset with the little players in the east and the pacific but would be going where the real money is ,but maybe the west don't want him. I guess if you had no morals you could put bids in for the other brokers for the ADF charters and then undercut your competition by putting in a cheaper bid at the last minute as a prefered bidder.Someone should point out to the ADF the flaw in their bidding system and let all and sundry bid for the defense charters, then they wouldn,t have to pay OZJET's inlated $12,000 per hour price. I.'m glad this fact has been put in writing by Heavy as it would make good reading in any submission, after all its my taxes paying those bills