Teresa Green, you have picked up an interesting point... 4 aircraft to go, but no crew loss. In fact, right now on the 737, we have 2 command courses (at various stages) going through & there is no plan to stop them. I think something else is going on here. What about surplus 737's being redeloyed on Pac Blue routes out of Australia? ... that would free up PB aircraft for route development out of NZ, and allow expansion of their domestic operation...without PB having to deal with what are now "hybrid" aircraft. And as someone else pointed out, they can't get enough pilots to run PB's current ops, let alone expand.