Will the view that prevails at the end of this particular debate leave us any the wiser as to what needs to be done now to give the regulator a higher measure of respect and trust than what has been the case in recent years? (At least the debate appears to be led by posters with a good grasp of finer points, the legal complexities. Those of us who are not required to exercise nous beyond ATPL air leg. can but spectate and try to follow the play.)