Stillalbatros and ACMS,
You both seem to peddle an impressive amout of bullsh1t disguised as fact on this website.
Fact 1 : they joined to fly frtr a/c only-agreed
Fact 2 : company intergration sponsored by AOA took place Jan 1 2000. Any time served prior to Jan 1 2000 working for CX subsiduary (ASL) or partly owned companies (AHK) was not taken into consideration when implementing seniority list
Fact 3 : officers now move to pax fleet on seniority.
ACMS quote "So how come his date of Joining is shown as 1995 in Crew Direct and now he is checking out on the 400 PAX fleet as a Capt HKG base? ( I think he's flying PAX now )"
Date of joining and date of inclusion onto seniority list are different. Date of joining was retained only for travel benefits. Date of seniority dictates when pax fleet becomes available.
ACMS quote" We integrated some of them into CX into the Freighter fleet after we bought AHK? right?
No, all of AHK were intergrated. Some in ASL chose to remain for various reasons. F/O's who were close to command stayed in ASL due 3 in 4 rule where by 3 of every 4 frtr commands would go to ASL. Some Captains stayed due to age 60 retirement in ASL. Those that did not intergrate in 2000 now sit with seniority numbers around the 2200 mark as final intergration took place in Jan 1 2008. ASL exists now purely as an employment entity for the remaining Flt Engineers.
Stillalbatross quote :Then after joining on the freighter ran to the AOA and said get us all pax jobs.
Utter misrepresentation of the truth. Check your facts or ask someone who was here at the time that the AOA approached the ASL body and jointly set this up in an effort to address split nature of the pilot group and to boost numbers. It is obvious from your response that you joined post 2000 otherwise you would know this. Regardless of your DOJ you have not been affected.
Further quote : Hence all pax crews from here on in lose 4 yrs command time and about $9 million in pay because of them.
More crap: They joined the seniority list in 2000. Everyone who joined before them and has been CAT A assessed has been given a command course.
Stillalbatross again: quote Plenty on the pax fleet interviewed for a pax job well before them and have ended up waiting for a pax command that will occur after them. Much like KA coming across to take pax commands.
Crap: KA are not taking pax commands and I challenge you to provide anyone who "interviewed for a pax job well before them and have ended up waiting for a pax command that will occur after them" because they just do not exist.
Now go check under your bed for Commies!
Last edited by fire wall; 9th Jun 2008 at 07:38.