Sadly Capt.Wally it was not the case. Perhaps as has been stated before, we did not have Pprune or the net to talk amongst ourselves, so the left hand did not always know what the right hand was doing. And without going into politics, Dear Leader was not the bloke to lead us. The likes of great minds and the ability of great leadership like Capt. Buck Brooksbank and Capt. Dick Holt would have seen a different outcome, (on this most of us agree) these blokes could charm a grapevine over a fence, and leave with a pot of money, and the ink dry on the paperwork before their victims had any idea they had been had. Sadly they were both outraged that all the work they had done to get Pilots a fair wage, and conditions at that time (it was they who started the bid system) go down the gurgler they walked away. We were NOT united, we did not all pull together, and some saw it as a chance to climb the ladder real quick, there were plenty of brown nosers in there. Hence the saying "united we stand divided we fall". That is the reason I made those comments.