Yes, ATC is getting a 6.3% at the more senior levels, but what everyone is losing sight of is that this latest pay rise is only just bringing us back to the pay levels we had when we moved to this airport 10 years ago. Don't forget that the Hong Kong Government took away over 9% in 3 reductions in salary over a 2 year period up to 2002. Also those on accommodation allowance are on over 30% less than the received back in 1998.