I was one of those that left several years ago because the salary was so crap. There was an EBA vote during my tenure that was successful. I couldn't believe how bad the offer was so I resigned to earn more than double overseas. There was also the nepotism that was astounding. If you weren't ex AN then you got nowhere. Part of the problem is that the boys and girls that voted for the crap deal got what they voted for. If it had been voted down, guess what would have happened? Do you think the Irishman would have said "too bad then, we cant afford to operate this airline with wages any higher than this so we will just wind the company up"? I think not somehow.