Getting back to the thread title of VFR vs IFR. I have never been happy with the practice of providing traffic information and then sitting back assuming all will be well. At the end of the day, you could well have several tons of aluminium hurtling towards each other at a closing speed of 3 - 400 kts. Can any of the ATC posters to this thread put their hand on their heart and say this situation is OK because I've told them about each other and that's all the book says I have to do? What is the recommended procedure if the VFR guy says he can't see the IFR? Pictures of that PSA 727 going down in flames a few years ago in California haunt me to this day when I have VFR against IFR.