I am not saying that there are no problems at Ryanair and yes it is brought alot by the people who run the airline so that is why i get sick of everybody having a go at the crew's time and time again. What i am saying is that every airline has problems and there are crew's flying world wide who have made mistakes but they do not get jumped on as quick as FR crew. We do not know the facts yet and crew's who made the mistakes in NOC and ORK lost their commands. The OFDM which is on board all RYR aircraft record everything and any mistake is there to be seen and to keep everybody safe. In nearly 30 years of flying they have not had a hull loss so there must be something that is working.