Thx everyone
OK. Enough things being taken out of context here to see this discussion isn't going anwhere. If it seriously seems as though I was "condemning" the safety culture of the airlines, or not trying to minimise risk myself, I guess I need to work on my writing skills -or qualify everything I say with so many modifiers & caveats that the meaning gets lost. But this isn't a legal thesis we're writing, it is, or was, an educational discussion, for me anyway. Ain't the anonymity of the internet wonderful? You can argue amongst yourselves. I'll think seriously about the issues raised in the thread though, and thanks to all, particularly the earlier posters who said what they had to say without the testosterone haze getting in the way. Sock duly placed. Seeya.