keygrip, thankyou for bringing me good news!!, the reason being, I'm just about done with atpl groundschool and I'm shooting off to work in greece for the summer and i don't think i'll have time to do a night rating here in the uk before I go and I'm doing my hours build in october and again i'll be pushed for time on the 28 day stamp, so i could minimise the effect of weather delays if i can fly at night.