this is about DOH by the east ...not length of service....at the PHX show,your own USAPA personal stated it is based on DOH....I was there!!!
If you were at the USAPA PHX roadshow pakeha-boy, then you must have also heard Bradford state something to the effect of optimally combining the lists in in a
DOH + Fences + Protections methodolgy so that in the foreseeable future no former AWA pilots could be displaced by any US East pilots on their own turf and vice versa. Also, I'm sure Bradford mentioned equipment ordered after the date of the merger would be shared. However, the 'vulgar' sound of the word 'DOH' in your ears, and those of others, may very well have vapor locked your brain, thereby preventing you from processing this important information.
And PB, perhaps you can explain something I am in bewilderment about.
Not once have I heard any east pilot state a desire to make a land grab or take away or fill west seats. Not one!! Not true the other way around. So who truly feels entitled? So just how do you feel the easties are "trying to ruin
your careers" if USAPA's intent is to utilize fences and protections that protect west pilots!?
This is not YOUR airline,this is the "combined " airline....this is the "New USAirways"....we were all hired on the same day......AWA is gone,so is the old USAirways....something you seem to have forgotten
An interesting concept, sir. Perhaps we should all align ourselves by DOB like most new hire classes we've all been familiar with. Oh,..wait,... wouldn't that be close to the same results as a 'straight' DOH list.
Furthermore, as someone already pointed out,
pilots from East nor West were officially consulted or needed for approval of this merger. So please kindly refrain from the fictitious claim that "the west pilots saved you".
The cold fact of the matter is that, regardless of how close
US might have been to liquidation, it
was merged/bought as a functioning business.
Obviously its franchise was far more valuable intact rather than in pieces or else the latter would have occurred, agree? And had the US Airways franchise (or parts thereof) been purchased under a liquidation sale then I would heartily agree that the east would do well to be anywhere on a list. Such was not the case, thank God.
You have to accept the fact that a 'near miss' is technically not the same as a 'hit', PB. If you can understand this point then it might help lower your blood pressure. I know,... easy to say, hard to do, right?
What part about binding arbitration dont you understand.
Personally, I don't understand the part where Mr. Nicolau chose to ignore for list consideration the US-MDA (ERJ-170) pilots and the returning US pilots who were already on the property or had been recalled. If any one deserves to rant louder than you sir, perhaps it is they. I suppose they will have a chance to do so in court, yes?
Finally, regarding the most recent potential UAL-US merger, I know from past experience how unprofessional some UAL pilots can be when faced with a potential merger with US ( I narrowly avoided a ground collision with one who acknowledged ORD GC's instruction to "fall in behind US Air", and not 'liking' the phrase, decided to practically use TOGA to cut me off ).
But if you think they are going to welcome 5-10 yr longevity Capts into their 'big iron' flight decks on the basis of a relative position merger using the Nicolau list, then I have some land in New Orleans I'd like to sell you, my friend. Time will tell, but if the 'undesirable-to-both-sides' happens I would think
DOH + Fences + Protections might even be more appealing to them also.
I never met a person from the land of 'down-under' (and vicinity) I didn't like. Look forward to the day we can split a pint, my friend.
85Speedbird