Yes Beagler I agree, the dog is at Elmsett Suffolk at the present owner in far east and not had a visual on it yet.I understand that to demod, from R.A.F. spec to civvy is going to be a major problem.Lots of £££s I believe this particulr a/c to have a long stress life of 1000 hours left before spar mods of £25,000.Bae are looking at costing the civvy mods ouch could be months before a good wring out occurs.Bye my name is Martin feel free to E-mail me if u wish BYE.