TW - you are thinking of runway 28 at EIDW, runway 29 is 1367m - I do agree though not a short field, funnily enopugh losing the engine in circuit and on approach has never particurly bothered me, as all you can really do is to lose any flaps and set for best glide - losing engine on take off does!! and to take up on someone elses point we take off with 10% of flap but that's just to give ourselves the best chance of landing back on the runway in the event of an engine failure and hmmpphhh must admit, our C152 weighs in at 1282lbs unladen weight add a couple of pilot's and some fuel and you are easily over the MTOW so some assist in climb rate is always handy - I really didn't intend to start an argument (sorry discussion - maybe someone should start a new topic to PAPI or not to PAPI) over the use of PAPI but a 3 degree approach will always give you a consistent view of a field - I must admit though unlike the previous contributor going into Abbeysrhule (575m) I am not as brave as he and it's full flaps, nose down and definitely a steeper approach
[ 13 August 2001: Message edited by: Richard49 ]
[ 13 August 2001: Message edited by: Richard49 ]