Thanks guys will try the PFA. The A/C crashed at Langham North Norfolk several years back the doc,Helena was on her way to Stauning in Denmark solo a trip she frequently made.On this occaision she decided to call in at langham to pick up some spare plugs from Henry Labouchere but, by her own admission got a bit slow on the approach,hence a bent Hornet moth.Henry restored the a/c.I have been unable to contact her by phone hence the request as she is in her 80s now there is no telling.My original request for info stands bye for now