Just asking the question but why do we start at 8 o' clock as the 'normal day' - who else does? Yes I know we have shift / flt times / ops/ex etc.... However, why don't we start at 9 o' clock? The powers that be have been trying to reduce the working day for the RAF for over 10 years so reduce it by starting the working day at 9. This would improve morale, reduce child care costs, allow papernts to take kids to school etc, etc... I will now sit back and wait for the abuse!