Don't let the weather get you down: moaning about the weather is part of pilot tradition, and new JAR regs require all PPLs to whinge about the weather at least three times a week in order to remain current and legal.. .. .There are still plenty of good flying days. Depending on how often you can take time off to fly, you can look forward to completing the PPL course, in UK weather, in something between a season and a year. It took me 11 months, which seems fairly average. Threads about flying hours show that it is perfectly possible for recreational pilots to log 50 to 150 hours a year if they are keen and have ready access to flying machines (and avoid the wicked perversions known as "playing golf", also talking to their families, doing the shopping, etc etc). . .. .As for getting committed, the only commitment comes from the enthusiasm you will (very probably) feel once you have taken a few lessons. If you don't like it, you can bin it whenever you like (assuming that you don't pay up front on a non-refundable basis, which wouldn't be a great idea in any event).. . . . <small>[ 22 March 2002, 09:45: Message edited by: FNG ]</small>