I have also come to the conclusion that DC 13.4's are worth the extra dosh - make sure you check their compatability with your instructor's kit, though.. .. .Mine said that 13.4's wouldn't be compatable with his (an impedance issue, I believe) so I've not bothered buying to-date as I won't be able to use them! It's be terrible to buy a new toy and not be able to play with it! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" /> . .. .Hersh