Hi Cat Driver. .. .You're right - tongue was firmly in cheek - it was just an old cliche that makes me smile and it does just remind those of us who haven't that we are not superior to those who have. And anyway, I was talking about forgetting the paperwork! . .. .Still stand by my comment that in the majority of cases it happens because something breaks the normal landing routine.. .. .By the way I agreed with your comments on the taildragging thread.. .. .Happy splashing