ivchenko:. .. .I am not trying to get into a pi**ing match with you but I am still interested in knowing why you stated " There are those who have and those who will". .. .I am sure you were saying that tounge in cheek, however many, many readers of these forums will be left with the false impression that pilots who fly retractable gear aircraft will land with the wheels in the wrong position eventually.. .. .I agree that when the regular routine suddenly changes or when an emergency arises there is the possibility that we will miss some item we normally do or check in a given order.. .. .There is no reason to believe however that it is enevitable that every pilot will screw up in something as important as gear lowering or insuring not to lower the gear before landing. ( As in the case of landing an amphibian on the water. ). .. .One of the cautions we must observe when teaching or learning a skill that is subject to so many variables as flying is to not get into a rote learning, rote acting frame of mind. Rather it is important to constantly vary your flying routine to ensure you do not get into habitual responses to the same routine. By "thinking" every action rather than "doing" every action it will drastically reduce the senario that sooner or later you will F**k up. . .. .So to all those of you who are not experienced pilots or who are thinking of learning to fly, reflect on the advice that I have placed here on your computer screen.. .. .And don't fall into the " It is enevitable " school of thought.. .. .And hey' ivchenko I mean no offence to you personally, we just look at the same subject in a different manner. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> . .. ................... . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />