BEagle,. .. .I see you are talking cr@p again. The is NO reason for someone who has done a JAR PPL in the US to need "usually an extra 10 hours or so will be needed".......unless they are a f**kwit, and would have needed the extra hours in the UK anyway. Either that or the instructor doing the dual check is more concerned about getting himself extra hours than being honest with the student. There seems to be some predjudice amongst certain people against others who have been fortunate enough to save themselves 000's of pounds by using a bit of common sense. JAR standards in the US should be (and are in my experience) the same as in the UK, and if they are not then it is the examiners who are at fault.. .. .I for one (and I know others) came back from the states, did a 1 hr dual check and was set free at EGHH. After all, you are learning the JAR syllabus, and lets face it its not particularly complicated is it.. .. .Rgds. .. .EA