You obviously drink the east "Juice" from your previous post,.......and are out of touch with what is actually happening on a day-to-day basis......
ALPA is not to blame for all of their woes......ALPA never put them in bankruptcy twice....ALPA didnt pick mgt,that ran the company into the ground.....
the east mentality is nothing but greed
Weasil...these jokers are nothing more than SCABS
SCUM!!!! NOTHING BUT SCUM!!!!SELFISH SCUM
QED
That's my point. About all I've heard from the AWA side is that they agreed to binding arbitration, they lost and tough. After that it degenerates into rants like the above. I don't dispute the problems with trying to overturn the award and in fact, USAPA seems to have embraced the all or nothing stance which may see them worse off in the long run. What I have not seen anyone acknowledge is that IMHO, some very junior FO's at AWA received a windfall. I've read the award and while I would never advocate that DOH was a fair solution to this, I also don't see how you can justify pilots who had close to 20 years with the company being put below others with only 2. I agree with the relative seniority principle but I can't abide putting the substantial number of east pilots who were hired in the 1980's below west pilots who were hired in the last 2 years simply because they were furloughed on the date that AWA/USAirways completed their transaction (by the time of the arbitration, most if not all of those pilots had been recalled).
Now, lets talk about ALPA's part in this process. I'll say it again so that maybe this time you will read what I wrote, think about it and respond thoughtfully. This has been a flawed process and I need no other proof other than this outcome. There is a very real possibility that the pilots could bring the whole airline down. We have gone from one large group of angry, disenfranchised pilots to another large group of angry disenfranchised pilots and I really don't see anyone coming out of this better off. The process was an ALPA process. Did the pilots (or perhaps more accurately the negotiators) from the east overreach during mediation? Probably. Are the rank and file from the east necessarily responsible for that? I would say that's a pretty harsh judgement if you think so. Has there been the slightest acknowledgement from anyone out west that perhaps this group of formerly furloughed pilots got screwed? Not that I have seen.
This was an ALPA process, an ALPA award and it doesn't seem that ALPA was too inclined to try to fix any of the problems (at least ALPA National or ALPA - AWA). Pakeha-boy, I challenge you to read my post, think about it and respond with something more than the angry rhetoric that seems to be all too prevalent on these boards. I don't expect you to agree with me but I would like to see my points responded to in detail because quite frankly, you and others like you have done more to convince me that you are part of the problem than any arbitrators decision could have.