Tee & Noggin. .. .There are certain places where the A/G operator does not have a view of the circuit and the entire airfield, working from an office as opposed to a tower (Sherburn, Caernarvon and Welshpool come immediately to mind). The sort of traffic information that they cannot posibly give (and which I as an ATCO refer to) is when you call downwind and you start being given where the other traffic in the circuit is. . .. .In addition to this bear this in mind. In an uncontrolled environment how do you know the traffic information you are receiving is correct?. .. .So - although you say they can give it, the real question has to be - is it accurate?. .. .CM