One other point to my earlier post.
QF pilots also dislike the fact that QF pilots been excluded despite the SH contract stating that QF would discuss LCC with us, despite assurances that we'd get a seat at the table before J* even took off on their first service and despite assurances that if a particular EBA got up then we'd be a seat at the table to discuss J* international. The very same pilots who have played a significant part in the 'reputation for safety'- deserved or otherwise- that Simon Westaway bangs on about whenever a journo questions any incident to do with J*.