Yankee,. .. .I am still in touch with some of the BASHers, and I agree, they are a very pro active group. Good luck to them.. .. .EDIT: Sorry, same comment as above.. .. .As for the AA5, yes, lovely plane in all respects airbourne, but in my view (and it's a personal one), it's not that great operating off grass in a wet UK winter. To be honest, that is one of the main reasons I left the BASH group. As I said, it's a personal thing. . .. .PS. . . . <small>[ 08 March 2002, 12:02: Message edited by: Polar_stereographic ]</small>