I've had my HM-40's for yonks. They stil work well, still comfy, still (relatively) cheap <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> . .. .Don't squeeze the old bonce like DC's either. My old instructor used to have lines engraved in his pate from the DC headband pad..... We never took the mick honest <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />