Good morning,. .. .just to clear up a couple of things, try and spell right and not offend anyone...!. .. .re. cables and winch launching. Height depends on wind strength and cable length. The latter therefore depends on the size of the airfield/ runway used at the time. I've had launches from 600' to 1850'. Gliding clubs on old WW2 fields can go to 2000' fairly easily. However, although you can go higher (without kiteing), many clubs don't, because then people wouldn't take as many aerotows and the club would lose money. Lasham are notorious for this. . .. .There are exceptions, but as a rule, wire launches to much over 2000' are not that common. . .. .re. 'airspace'; those pilots without Bronze and Cross Country Endorsement are restricterd to 'local soaring' which means within gliding range of the site. 3-5 miles usually covers this. A bollocking from 10nm away is a bit rich, unless you hadn't realised there was a gliding club 1500' underneath you 10 miles ago... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" /> (just kidding!). .. .I think it's more to do with a difference between the two flying styles that can make glider pilots nervous, but I'll post my thoughts about that after I've had a coffee!. .. .yo