englishal,. .. .I sort of agree with you. I'm not an authority on the different licences etc, but I get the impression that the JAR thing has been a bit of a cockup particularily where PPL's are concerned. . .. .I wonder if the NPPL is the first step to getting the old CAA PPL's back. There is no chance in my view, of the JAR rules being scrapped. . .. .PS