Query,. .. .I don't follow you. What exactly makes you think that those who come out with an NPPL will be less able to fly VFR than those with a JAR licence?. .. .Why also, do you have a problem with it? The reason I ask is that I get the impression from your posts that you have a problem/grudge against it, and I'm just curious to know what it is.. .. .And, may I add, that although an NPPL is not for me, anything that encourages aviation in this country has to be good. For years now, it's been getting harder and harder to fly, so for that alone it get's my vote. As an aside, I don't think that since all this JAR stuff has come in that the accident statistics are any better.. .. .PS. . . . <small>[ 18 March 2002, 09:47: Message edited by: Polar_stereographic ]</small>