Really Sleeve - you`re just trying to make an argument where there isn`t one. Please save your concern about my delusions. CaptAirProx too. It`s necessary to renew ratings but not to the extent of duplicating this stuff. . .. .I haven`t denigrated those who fly light twins or those who are not professionals. I haven`t said I`m so good I don`t need to prove anything. Re- read if you can be bothered. As you suggested I have renewed the rating periodically (two of the last four years) but I`m getting bored with shelling out the 300 quid or so just to do the same as I do at work, where crucially I never had to before. The statistics don`t warrant it. . .. .Sadly you would have been disappointed to watch my last performance with massive drift angles, light wing loadings, reading my own plates (don`t you tell your examiners the minima you`re going to use before you start ?) and all the other spurious differences you want to believe contribute to justifying this excercise in bureaucratic arse covering. - It was just an average normal pass. . .. .Sleeve I`ve got enough time in both regimes to "know what I`m talking about".. .. .GH