I agree with NC's suggestion re the pay but obviously the company won't. However, if we could come to a deal like that but agreed that bypass pay would only be paid to an F/O who's spent 9 years in the company then there could be a possibility of agreement. After all, NR keeps on telling us that there will be little change to command times should the retirement age increase, so it will be a no cost option if he has belief in what he's writing. His missive a week or so ago said " the company is genuinely committed to significant growth over the next 10 years and that a change in retirement age will not unduly slow their career progression" so let him put his money where his mouth is.