I think they are concerned that we are all flying accuraetly to the same point whereas pre-GPS we would have been happy to be (or deliberately be) a mile or so to one side of it....... .. .I must confess to using VRP's as waypoints when departing LTN Zone. At least they know exactly where I am when I call up for a quick chat <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />