Thanks guys I was starting to get a bit despondent about prune,we all know that its a great site,sorry you are having a rough time Beagler you have supported quite a few of us in the past myself included PLEASE DONT ESCAPE you have a valuable contribution to make.Thanks Stik (Al)always nice to know one has helped someone along the way.Would be good to know Andys progress if you get time as the media has probably said all its going to. Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth and danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings------------Put out my hand and touched the face of God. High Flight by John McGee.. Chicken 6 hope you are still flying safely good to hear from you even though we had a bad start to our relationship, Bye for now