Oops! Whirlybird, thought I was being mildly amusing using Whirlygirl - didn't realise there was a real one already.. .. .You can be as irrelevant as you like - it's your thread remember... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> . .. . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />