sennadog,. .. .You are most welcome to use me for any fictitious examples you like, within reason. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> . .. .However, please get my name right! I am WhirlyBIRD. WhirlyGIRL is Canadian, also female, also a fairly recent CPL(H) who can't yet manage to get paid to fly whirly things. But we are two different people (only I'm the Original Whirly <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> ). There are TWO Whirlys! I know it's ever so complicated, much much harder even than deciphering a fiendishly difficult invented TAF in a CAA commercial met exam, but please try to remember. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> . .. .No apologies for this being totally irrelevant to the subject matter of the thread, or indeed to very much else. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />