Al R, like Mr C I'm afraid that I must take you up on your rather lame stacker-pilot comparison. You seem to neglect that the RAF is run by pilots (and always has been), and that the creeping ingress of management twaddle into the Service over the past 20 years has been instigated, supported and driven by... hmm, let's see now! For what it's worth, my abiding memory of many years's service on flying stations was the seemingly endless deluge of corporate b******s from the Stn Cdr, OC Fg Sqns and SHQ - at times it seemed that the only true examples of leadership and command could be found in Eng & Supply Wg. Perhaps you might like to re-consider your rather poor attempt at banter!