Flying signman
in your post i quoted you said it wasnt smilers job to update in engineering. how you can be confused escapes me. its fairly clear what dis gruntled is saying. and im glad your optimistic where theres hope etc! all good stuff!
As for the updates on the website fair enougth theres a little more info on donations etc but thats only a small part of the problem. Nobody can deny that there are some pressing issues hanging over T.V.O.C and untill they address these publically then the poor image rumours etc will not go away.
All it would take is for them to acknowlege these issues and if they cannot talk publically about them then explain that at least be seen to listen. And lets face it these are guys ( and ladys! apolagies vickyv) who were involved in the project that are expressing thier concerns and people will listen to them. In short T.V.O.C's efforts are simply nowhere near enough.