As before stated, it's the shallow turns that subconsciously get "helped" with a bit of rudder that are more likely to get you into an unexpected spin.
I've spent a few hours thermalling the Puch solo close to the stall and have no complaints with its behavior in a steep bank.
But it sure spins easy out of a shallow bank with not much back stick force and a lot of people have gotten killed that way in the Puch.
Spring checks are coming up and I plan to ask for an extra thousand feet or so to see how/if the Puch spins from a 45 degree bank.
Derek Piggott in his books somewhere mentions that a glider won't stall in a 45 degree turn because the elevator does not have the power in the angled airflow to stall the wing. Caveat that in gliders, pilot position, weight, ballast, equipment and other CG factors can yield an a/c that can vary from impossible to stall to one that's precariously close to the stall.
Last edited by RatherBeFlying; 29th February 2008 at 02:06.