Soddit. .JAR FTL heated up at the back end of last year then went quiet. Don't think NASA involved in Jar FTL. The Airlines have reached a common understanding last time i heard, but its a waste of time anyway as it still allows airlines to . .speak to their national authority thus allowing. .some airlines to start at 0001 end at 1800 after 4 sectors with 2 crew (Spain) so whats the point?. "We've been doing it for 20 years without incident" was the airlines answer!!. The UK CAA's view is that UK Airlines are "safer" but beancounters don't normally follow that line do they. <img src="mad.gif" border="0">