Zippybabe i am not negative at all, as you will find out if you ever fly with me but what you have to remember is that if you work for BAcityflyer then you are not joining BA as such but a subsidary on lower T&Cs than mainline. A lot of people have joined BACF and dont realise this difference, like Dollydaydream i have experience of the cityflyer operation when it was called other names, and its essentially the same management structure and ideas from then, if you had ever worked for BAcitiexpress, BAconnect or any of its other former titles you would understand. Infact a good idea would be to google those names along with BRYMON , BRAL and BAR and see what you get this would then give you the background required to understand where cityflyer version2 came from .