Nevertheless Re-Heat, that is all besides the point. Not got a sprog at OAT have you by any chance? UK citizens are freely available to apply for SO positions at Cathay. Pardon me for not being the oracle that you so obviously are. I will get back in my box and learn a bit more about the industry before posting again Sir. I am perfectly obliged to fight my corner regardless. Now spare me, I might start feeling bad if you dont lay off. I am so sorry that my naughty language has rattled you.