no, with the griffith one the cost of the bachelor of aviation goes to hecs, and the cost of the graduate diploma of flight management (= flight training) goes to fee help. so its not up front. the good thing about uni is that you learn things that will help you on the job, espicially out bush, that isnt flying, eg everything that goes into being a cheif pilot in NT. as well as that you get to meet people that are going to be great contacts in the future, have alot of fun and if ur lucky get into the cadetship as well.