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Old 6th February 2008 | 02:28
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WhaleFR8
 
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It's already too late for either of these groups to get along! Too much has been said here and on the ALPA main board, by T.H. and K.M. It will never work out in the Cockpits. The same thing happened at EverZone in the early 90's.
You don't seriously think that only two Atlas pilots are responsible for ALL the animosity between the two groups do you? How Naive a statement that is. What about D.W. (Mr Scab Announcer himself) who is no longer at Polar? What about M.H. (Capt Vac.) and the myriad of others that were Bobbrobins mouthpiece. What about your former MEC chair who no longer works at Polar - the actors in this soap opera are many and are on both sides. I think if you were to step back and objectively look at things, you would see that the Atlas pilots who post on this board only post in response to Polar untruths, half-truths, and obvious attempts to distort reality.

Please educate yourself where the Military flights come from, ie FedEx ! It is part of a group award and FedEx heads it up.
Actually this is called CRAF flying and the consortium that is called the FedEx group has many members. Perhaps you think (or Bobbrobin think) that this makes them all Polar flights? Do you want to take all the military flying from the rest of the FedEx CRAF airlines too?

I have read the Polar suggested dispute resolution - have you? In that resolution they attempt to tell the arbitrator that ANY military flight should be a Polar flight because Polar used to do military flights. Point of fact is that Polar no longer has the aircraft to do both the military flights and the scheduled service flights they are currently doing. AAWWH made the decision to park the old antiquated MX intensive Polar classics and at one point Polar was given some of the Atlas classics in an attempt to bolster the scheduled service. As I have said before, the more Polar flying that was done the more money the company lost - and it would be even greater in todays fuel economy. So those aircraft are back where they can make some money. And just because at one point Polar had four or five Atlas aircraft Bobbrobin now think they belong to the Polar group? You don't seriously think AAWH would transfer aircraft back from the lucrative ACMI flying over to Polar just so Polar could do the military charters do you?

Point of fact is that the absolute best thing that could happen to the Polar group is to complete this merger. Then both groups would be able to fly ALL the holding company's aircraft on whichever business model is most lucrative at the time.

e Atlas uses more Polar call signs, than Polar uses Giant ?
Because Polar has neither the aircraft nor the pilots to fly anything but their current routes. I would expect to hear SAT or Tradewinds using a Giant call sign before I would expect to hear a fully allocated Polar aircraft on an Atlas Charter. Polar scheduled service is unprofitable enough without taking aircraft off line to do a charter. You obviously need the education - not nitty.
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